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it was between susan rice and john kerry. you can look at the politics on either way. boy you can't back down on this opposition, on the other hand, is this a fight he wants to have? >> to have a nomination fight over secretary of state is really an unusual and shocking thing. and so, i think that, probably in the end, he doesn't do it. but i do think that it is -- but he, again, he put her in this position and then -- then she gets the opposition and then he says, well, i can't name you. it's unfair. maybe in the end, he realizes that. >> well, i don't think we should link whether or not she -- what happened in benghazi and whether she gets the nomination. i would hate to conclude that the reason she doesn't get that nomination is because of this stuff that just happened. they're not necessarily connected. i just want to -- >> talk radio is just full of benghazi. it is a big issue. >> which is amazing to me. in 1982, we lost 241 marines in lebanon and the country came around president reagan, you didn't see all of this partisan bickering -- >> wait. wait a minute. >>
it was between susan rice and john kerry. you can look at the politics on either way. boy you can't back down on this opposition, on the other hand, is this a fight he wants to have? >> to have a nomination fight over secretary of state is really an unusual and shocking thing. and so, i think that, probably in the end, he doesn't do it. but i do think that it is -- but he, again, he put her in this position and then -- then she gets the opposition and then he says, well, i can't name you....
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. >> and we haven't heard a peep from john kerry and apparently he's told people don't push for him. so interesting strategy there as well. chris, ruth, thank you both. >>> also today, as the u.n. general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several european countries. israel says it could respond by withholding money or security cooperation from the palestinian authority in the west bank. the u.s. is against recognition. at toys r us. s think you can get similar items at walmart for a lower price? i don't know. let's go see. disney princess bike -- $58. over $11 less than toys r us. wow! that's great. and assembly's free. toys r us charges 10 bucks. that's awesome! razor electric scooter. no way! it's a savings of over 30 bucks! oh -- that is awesome! on those two items -- you could save $42.98 versus toys r us. that is so good! i know! see for yourself -- bri
. >> and we haven't heard a peep from john kerry and apparently he's told people don't push for him. so interesting strategy there as well. chris, ruth, thank you both. >>> also today, as the u.n. general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several...
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and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in touch with each other after lunch. >> yeah. it was probably -- i've heard some people say the most awkward conversation mitt romney has had since his last conversation. you know, for what it's worth, like, i don't think that either of them really want to stay in touch. i mean, the whole thing was a sill symbolic gesture and i think we can say it is a classy move to do this. it is something that is -- it's -- even if it's purely symbolic, sometimes we need the symbolism. sometimes we need to say, especially after thanksgiving, when
and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it,...
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but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not going to stay four years. i wouldn't be surprised if he stays almost all of the 2013 calendar year. >> here's the biggest difference between leon panetta and myself, i am very anxious to leave. >> i know you are. >> you're always anxious to leave. to take a nap. >> by the way, i have to root for alabama. this is like the hardest 40 whatever we're going to have, 35 days. to end up rooting for alabama. >> that was one of the greatest college games of all time. >> it was a fantastic game. >> and i have a real hook in for bcs tickets, chuck, if you want to talk to me late
but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not...
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i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense. jon: we're going to leave it there. we'll see. it is the president's choice to make. >> that's right. jon: we'll see which choice he does make. thank you both, marjorie clifton, angela mcglowan. >> thank you. jenna: speaker boehner talking about this morning so far, met with treasury secretary tim geithner, all of this having to do with the fiscal crisis and what would happen. what will become of these negotiations between republicans and democrats. we'll take a listen to the speaker a little bit here before we go to break. you can watch the entire re
i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense....
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first of all, it's widely known out there that john kerry wants the job. but, of course, you know, the story we've all been talking about that susan rice appears to be above on that list. that's the first thing. all of this speculation about who could get that job and, you know, if he got that job then this person could pick up the seat in massachusetts, it really is all just sort of hypothetical here. the president has not put forward a nomination yet. there's a lot of wrangling going on. democrats are saying republicans are playing politics here. at the end of the day, it's all hypothetical until the president puts a nomination on. >> it's interesting to watch and chat about. dan lothian, thank you. >> okay. >>> it's a black friday hangover for a major retailer and a black eye. coming up, the complaints, a slew of complaints in the wake of a holiday sales frenzy. we'll tell you where it happened. if you're leaving your house, watch us on your desk top or mobile phone just go to cnn.com/tv. plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more ca
first of all, it's widely known out there that john kerry wants the job. but, of course, you know, the story we've all been talking about that susan rice appears to be above on that list. that's the first thing. all of this speculation about who could get that job and, you know, if he got that job then this person could pick up the seat in massachusetts, it really is all just sort of hypothetical here. the president has not put forward a nomination yet. there's a lot of wrangling going on....
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bush's victory over john kerry in 2004. [ emily jo ] derrell comes into starbucks with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ shirley ] things are sometimes a little tight around the house. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since derrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his way. ♪ [ laughs ] [ applause ] i love you. i love you, too. i love you. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's amazing how appreciative people are when you tell them they could save a lot of money on their car insurance by switching to geico...they may even make you their best man. may i have the rings please? ah, helzberg diamonds. nice choice, mate. ...and now in the presence of these guests we join this loving couple. oh dear... geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. restore revive rejuvenate rebuild rebuild rebuild >>> today hostess will ask a bankruptcy judge to approve big bonuses for top executives
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finally, josh kerry is the other -- john kerry is the other possible main candidate for secretary of state. your thoughts on him? >> threw away his war medals, called his fellow soldiers in vietnam war criminals and then during a debate in 2004 said the united states should not use force internationally without getting the approval of everybody else. that's not somebody i want to see as secretary of state. megyn: who do you like? >> hard to think. megyn: [laughter] >> carl levin, very experienced man. megyn: we'll leave it at that. >> leave it at that. megyn: general, great to see you. all the best, sir. >>> coming up, the senate homeland security committee holding a hearing, we will speak with one of the senators in on that hearing. >>> plus a woman on trial accused of befriending and killing a lottery winner. >>> and new technology offering parents a window to their child's future. we'll show you how you can figure out if your baby is at risk of becoming obese. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a
finally, josh kerry is the other -- john kerry is the other possible main candidate for secretary of state. your thoughts on him? >> threw away his war medals, called his fellow soldiers in vietnam war criminals and then during a debate in 2004 said the united states should not use force internationally without getting the approval of everybody else. that's not somebody i want to see as secretary of state. megyn: who do you like? >> hard to think. megyn: [laughter] >> carl...
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we'll see this john kerry and susan rice are too on that team and perhaps hagel as well. we'll let you go and see you tonight on special report. bill: is the president sending a signal on flexibility when it comes to tax rates, or is he holding firm? remember this? >> i also believed everybody should have a fair shot, and everybody should do their their fair share and play by the rules. because these how economies are grown. bill: can both side talk themselves into a real deal? martha: an update on the bell ringer's this holiday season. they are back on the streets but one city says they can only be there under one condition. bill: uh-ho. >> thank you so much, happy holidays. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. martha: here we go, folks, a basket brawl in boston at the sel
we'll see this john kerry and susan rice are too on that team and perhaps hagel as well. we'll let you go and see you tonight on special report. bill: is the president sending a signal on flexibility when it comes to tax rates, or is he holding firm? remember this? >> i also believed everybody should have a fair shot, and everybody should do their their fair share and play by the rules. because these how economies are grown. bill: can both side talk themselves into a real deal? martha: an...
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kerry and now her rival to become secretary of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell reporting. >>> as most people focus on susan rice and john kerry as the frontrunners for the secretary of state job, a new report suggest that's former republican senator chuck hagel is also vetted by the white house for a potential security post. >>> overseas, egyptian president mohamed morsi is expected to call for unity while addressing his nation today. tension still very high after he issued an edict that will give him sweeping power above the reach of judicial review until a new constitution is adopted. they're rushing to finish a new draft of the consti
kerry and now her rival to become secretary of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell...
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you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he still has three things, family, faith and financial security. yes, and remember, romney is a multimillionaire several times over. so it's not like he needed the job. right now romney is subletting a space his ton's investment firm in boston. he'll be in the same building, i think it's a safe bet, wolf, we will be hearing from him again in some capacity or another, wolf. >> i'm sure we will. he'll do just fine. >> right. >> thanks very much. >>> the accused mastermind behind 9/11 potentially closer to coming to this very country he allegedly conspired to attack. >>> m
you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he...
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john kerry would make a great -- >> stephanie: john kerry is a jim-dandy idea. "the daily caller" -- black history attack. it brings us -- the attacks against u.s. ambassador to the u.n. temperament had been so subtle as to obscure their illegitimacy. "the daily caller" rode into the rescue with a scoop about dr. rice's collegiate effort to africate your student. it talks about the importance of teaching black history in american schools. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >> shocking. >> stephanie: in this game, the password is uppity. central to the book's ambition was re-claiming lost black achievements and giving black children pride in their history. what? [ screaming ] >> white kids can't be proud of black history? >> stephanie: no, that was her plot when she was a college student. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >> frederick douglas. >> he's a negro. >> stephanie: oh boy. all right. 45 minutes after the hour. right back with the remaining moments of "the stephanie miller show." >> that woman's about as supple as a rhinoceros horn at the back side. >> announcer: it's "the stephani
john kerry would make a great -- >> stephanie: john kerry is a jim-dandy idea. "the daily caller" -- black history attack. it brings us -- the attacks against u.s. ambassador to the u.n. temperament had been so subtle as to obscure their illegitimacy. "the daily caller" rode into the rescue with a scoop about dr. rice's collegiate effort to africate your student. it talks about the importance of teaching black history in american schools. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] >>...
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he's thought to be one of four finalists on a list that includes massachusetts senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning. >> reporter: right now it's looking more likely that we could, could, go over that fiscal cliff at the end of the month because right now, negotiations here are at a stand still. president obama talks to the business round table today after telling bloomberg he absolutely won't bunch. the wealthiest americans must pay more. >> we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: he may be in a good position to wait it out. a new poll found more half of americans will blame republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making o
he's thought to be one of four finalists on a list that includes massachusetts senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning....
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kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out quickly. the best week for me is what i'm calling obama 2.0. the president is out there and this is new obama and gauge taking his message to the american people and strong leadership and expect more of this, more of an activist president in the next four years. >> okay. susan, how about yours? >> i think ambassador susan rice had a horrible week. not only, it started out with the best intentions going up to meet with these senators, but especially after a meeting with senator collins from maine, it just really went downhill from there and now it seems like the obama administration can sail through senator kerry,
kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out...
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and massachusetts senator john kerry emerging as an alternative. in a clear message to the white house, collins said kerry would have no problem winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post election time at his family's home in southern california. wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall of that one? ♪ awkward >> slightly. or maybe they will actually be more, more warm and hospitable than we think. >> you think with such a partisan, divisive election. you wonder how they kind of break that ice, and the president with his political role model, lincoln. team rival. there was at some point, romney would be treasury secretary. a little unlikely. at least give romney a role in some economic council or advisory position. >> the president has gone on record
and massachusetts senator john kerry emerging as an alternative. in a clear message to the white house, collins said kerry would have no problem winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post...
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but, you know, john mccain still had his senate seat and john kerry still was in the senate so there's still players in washington. you're looking at mitt romney, he didn't carry new hampshire, massachusetts, or california, his home states. there is no such thing as a romney republican anymore. they're a dwindling tribe. he doesn't have any power. he's coming today, obama looked good because he was showing a reaching out, the winner sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship he's trying to create through the gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i watch this from 7:00 in the morning until i go to bed at midnight. i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of that. romney, himself, the dat
but, you know, john mccain still had his senate seat and john kerry still was in the senate so there's still players in washington. you're looking at mitt romney, he didn't carry new hampshire, massachusetts, or california, his home states. there is no such thing as a romney republican anymore. they're a dwindling tribe. he doesn't have any power. he's coming today, obama looked good because he was showing a reaching out, the winner sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship...
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some obscure issue, john mccain and john kerry actually agreed on and held a joint news conference and little back and forth needling of the other. here's john kerry when he finishes his remarks and calls on senator mccain. >> senator mccain -- >> thank you very much mr. secretary. [ laughter ] >> bill: talking state? >> thank you very much, mr. president. [ laughter ] >> this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. [ laughter ] we're just having fun. >> bill: good comeback on john kerry's part. >> mccain didn't think that was so funny. >> bill: all right. we've got lots to cover. john boehner actually out yesterday with a counterproposal on the fiscal cliff but how serious is it? really? we'll get into that and a whole lot more. but first -- >> this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news, the new york city homeless man who was in that photo that went viral last week where a police officer brought him a pair of shoes on a cold night was found by "the new york times" yesterday not wearing those brand new boots. 54-year-old jeffrey hillman said he was i
some obscure issue, john mccain and john kerry actually agreed on and held a joint news conference and little back and forth needling of the other. here's john kerry when he finishes his remarks and calls on senator mccain. >> senator mccain -- >> thank you very much mr. secretary. [ laughter ] >> bill: talking state? >> thank you very much, mr. president. [ laughter ] >> this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. [ laughter ] we're just having...
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kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to talk about how they're going to slash spending in medicare, to save medicare, how they'll have to slash spending in medicaid to save medicaid. their political problem on the other side of this tax debate is so much bigger than the republican problem. they're being too clever by half here. >> both sides have complicated hands. and if the democrats, we achieve what the president and some democrats in the senate are asking for in a narrow way around taxes, you're absolutely right. just as an aside on the bush era, this is the first time we didn't go to war where we didn't pay for it. some of the things the democra
kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to...
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kerry as his replacement for secretary of state hillary clinton. at this point, aides say to me that the president knows he can't let this linger much longer, can't leave rice or kerry hanging in the wind. expect an announcement perhaps by early next weeks. >> chuck todd at the white house, thank you very much. >>> we want to turn and get a check of the day's other top stories. natalie morales over at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, everyone. >>> ex-cia chief general david petraeus spoke out about his affair with biographer paula broadwell in a letter to his colleague james shelton nbc news has learned this morning. in the november 20th note, petraeus says, quote, i screwed up royally and tells shelton, quote, i paid the price appropriately and i sought to do the right thing at the end of the day. petraeus also praises his wife for standing by him. the affair brought about petraeus' resignation earlier this month. >>> renewed fears this morning that egypt could be on the verge of a second popular revolution as mohamed morsi addresses
kerry as his replacement for secretary of state hillary clinton. at this point, aides say to me that the president knows he can't let this linger much longer, can't leave rice or kerry hanging in the wind. expect an announcement perhaps by early next weeks. >> chuck todd at the white house, thank you very much. >>> we want to turn and get a check of the day's other top stories. natalie morales over at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, everyone. >>>...
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bush, john kerry. they talked on the phone about healing and they never talked again. and kerry served on the senate. i mean -- okay, but let's imagine. i'm just going to go with will and look upon this as glass half full. what if, roland -- what if mr. obama could find something for romney to do and romney agreed to do it? >> yeah. white house usher. there's a lot of jobs mitt romney could do for the president. look, first of all, if we're going to do this lunch don't do it at the white house. the president should have taken mitt romney to ben's chili bowl, get a half smoked and he could meet the 47%. i have no problems with it but i certainly think for mitt romney it's going to be one heck of a lunch, having to see the president sit there and smile at him and say you know i kicked your behind. you know i did, didn't you? i think there is a role for individuals who run for president of the united states in terms of still operating in the public space. because, again, we need all ideas on the table. so i'm sure the president, he's got a whole bunch of stuff he could as
bush, john kerry. they talked on the phone about healing and they never talked again. and kerry served on the senate. i mean -- okay, but let's imagine. i'm just going to go with will and look upon this as glass half full. what if, roland -- what if mr. obama could find something for romney to do and romney agreed to do it? >> yeah. white house usher. there's a lot of jobs mitt romney could do for the president. look, first of all, if we're going to do this lunch don't do it at the white...